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		<title>By: IQ185</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 06:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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How about credible evidence that it is working where it is being practiced?  and that it is sustainable?  We are not even able to do a good job with managing the Veterans Health Care system, Medicaid,  Medicare,  Medicare Part B, and Social Security.  It makes much more sense to get this economy back on track by bringing good jobs back home with corporate tax breaks to companies that actually pay people a wage that doesn't come straight out of 1978.  Whatever route this country chooses to go on this issue will not work without a sound economy.  A sound economy gives a government a broader tax base which lessens the individual tax payer burden but increases the government revenues.  In addition to repatriating jobs we need to encourage new job creation.  next we need to pay off our current debt and trim government expenses. 
Understand, we can shift who pays for health care, which is all this debate is about, but it still must be paid for.  I don't much like the reckless way the government throws around the money I already give them, so yes, I object to giving them more. 
This is a superb time for a new administration to go back to the basics of sound fiscal policy.   Let us get away from arguing the merits of trickle down vs trickle up economics and recognize that in any economic cycle the things that ignited growth may well not be the things that sustain it.
To summarize, the only information that would convince me to even consider having a serious conversation about universal healthcare would be no to low national unemployment numbers, no to low inflation, a growing national GDP, and a government that is solvent.
Without these elements in place, the notion is unworkable.</description>
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<p>How about credible evidence that it is working where it is being practiced?  and that it is sustainable?  We are not even able to do a good job with managing the Veterans Health Care system, Medicaid,  Medicare,  Medicare Part B, and Social Security.  It makes much more sense to get this economy back on track by bringing good jobs back home with corporate tax breaks to companies that actually pay people a wage that doesn&#8217;t come straight out of 1978.  Whatever route this country chooses to go on this issue will not work without a sound economy.  A sound economy gives a government a broader tax base which lessens the individual tax payer burden but increases the government revenues.  In addition to repatriating jobs we need to encourage new job creation.  next we need to pay off our current debt and trim government expenses.<br />
Understand, we can shift who pays for health care, which is all this debate is about, but it still must be paid for.  I don&#8217;t much like the reckless way the government throws around the money I already give them, so yes, I object to giving them more.<br />
This is a superb time for a new administration to go back to the basics of sound fiscal policy.   Let us get away from arguing the merits of trickle down vs trickle up economics and recognize that in any economic cycle the things that ignited growth may well not be the things that sustain it.<br />
To summarize, the only information that would convince me to even consider having a serious conversation about universal healthcare would be no to low national unemployment numbers, no to low inflation, a growing national GDP, and a government that is solvent.<br />
Without these elements in place, the notion is unworkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed F</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 04:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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The hiring of 500,000 new doctors and nurses to treat the 47,000,000 added to the health care rolls as it takes me a week now to see the doctor as everyone is short staffed.
Do we want to wait 6 months to see a doctor or a year for surgery like in Canada, which as 1/10 of our population?</description>
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<p>The hiring of 500,000 new doctors and nurses to treat the 47,000,000 added to the health care rolls as it takes me a week now to see the doctor as everyone is short staffed.<br />
Do we want to wait 6 months to see a doctor or a year for surgery like in Canada, which as 1/10 of our population?</p>
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		<title>By: Scoot</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 21:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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Universal healthcare = socialized medicine

WILL NOT WORK! never has, never will</description>
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<p>Universal healthcare = socialized medicine</p>
<p>WILL NOT WORK! never has, never will</p>
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		<title>By: ASH</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 23:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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The devil is in the details.
tell me
how much MORE money is going to come out of my check on top of taxes?
Dental? optical? why stop at health?
whats the co-pay?
is everybody going to pay?, or are you going to burden ME to pay for YOU?
Show me proof that Canadians are no longer coming to America to receive medical treatments, which they are doing in record numbers.
worst economy since the great depression and we should spend more?
tell me how the government is going to be a NON_Bureaucratic provider of health ins. when they basically have screwed the American economy, tax-payers, screwed up Social Sec., medic aid, unfair free trade,
Show me that if we removed some antiquated and stupid laws how the free market couldn't provide cheap ins.
Why should I (WE) pay for some one who is 2 years away from cancer or emphysema because they chose to destroy their body despite huge warnings and taxes placed on such  products.

i could probably go on with a few more, but if you could answer those it would be a great start.</description>
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<p>The devil is in the details.<br />
tell me<br />
how much MORE money is going to come out of my check on top of taxes?<br />
Dental? optical? why stop at health?<br />
whats the co-pay?<br />
is everybody going to pay?, or are you going to burden ME to pay for YOU?<br />
Show me proof that Canadians are no longer coming to America to receive medical treatments, which they are doing in record numbers.<br />
worst economy since the great depression and we should spend more?<br />
tell me how the government is going to be a NON_Bureaucratic provider of health ins. when they basically have screwed the American economy, tax-payers, screwed up Social Sec., medic aid, unfair free trade,<br />
Show me that if we removed some antiquated and stupid laws how the free market couldn&#8217;t provide cheap ins.<br />
Why should I (WE) pay for some one who is 2 years away from cancer or emphysema because they chose to destroy their body despite huge warnings and taxes placed on such  products.</p>
<p>i could probably go on with a few more, but if you could answer those it would be a great start.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobama!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobama!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 07:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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How about seeing it actually work somewhere first? 

Besides, we can't have universal health care.  If we did, where would Canadians go when they need a test or procedure and can't afford the six month wait?</description>
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<p>How about seeing it actually work somewhere first? </p>
<p>Besides, we can&#8217;t have universal health care.  If we did, where would Canadians go when they need a test or procedure and can&#8217;t afford the six month wait?</p>
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		<title>By: Taffi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 05:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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I would be open to the concept of universal health care if I could be assured that the quality of medical care would be the same as I am receiving now. I want to be able to go to the doctors I choose to go to. I also want to be able to have regular check-ups and preventative care. I don't want to have to give up one thing I have now.</description>
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<p>I would be open to the concept of universal health care if I could be assured that the quality of medical care would be the same as I am receiving now. I want to be able to go to the doctors I choose to go to. I also want to be able to have regular check-ups and preventative care. I don&#8217;t want to have to give up one thing I have now.</p>
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		<title>By: Myra F</title>
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I would love to see each one of them have to experience not having health insurance or the money to pay for any type of medical care, while suffering from a medical condition that worsens without treatment. It would not need to be anything too horrible, maybe an abscessed tooth or chronic fungal infection.</description>
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<p>I would love to see each one of them have to experience not having health insurance or the money to pay for any type of medical care, while suffering from a medical condition that worsens without treatment. It would not need to be anything too horrible, maybe an abscessed tooth or chronic fungal infection.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady B</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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NONE as it is a pr-oven fact it doesn't work. There is never enough money coming from the working people to pay for those who don't work. Also UHC is considered KILL - Care as it will not allow those Seniors from 65 years of age and up to get necessary surgery's and millions of Seniors will die an early life. UHC will only allow the money for surgery's to go to the young. 

It failed in Europe, failed in Canada, failed in Massachusetts and has failed in Hawaii and Hawaii only had it for children.

There is no proff that it has worked anywhere in the world.</description>
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<p>NONE as it is a pr-oven fact it doesn&#8217;t work. There is never enough money coming from the working people to pay for those who don&#8217;t work. Also UHC is considered KILL - Care as it will not allow those Seniors from 65 years of age and up to get necessary surgery&#8217;s and millions of Seniors will die an early life. UHC will only allow the money for surgery&#8217;s to go to the young. </p>
<p>It failed in Europe, failed in Canada, failed in Massachusetts and has failed in Hawaii and Hawaii only had it for children.</p>
<p>There is no proff that it has worked anywhere in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Massive Mann</title>
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Well, with 45 million people not paying into a system, and the current average monthly payment into a plan for a working person is roughly 70 bucks,........what's $70.00 times 45 million? And THEN you add into the equation all those who are NOW paying into the same system....WOW, DUDE!!! That's a bunch of Bucks...So why would any Doc NOT see patients? They want a piece of THAT pie, Right?? That smashes the argument of Waiting forever for service  Right?</description>
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<p>Well, with 45 million people not paying into a system, and the current average monthly payment into a plan for a working person is roughly 70 bucks,&#8230;&#8230;..what&#8217;s $70.00 times 45 million? And THEN you add into the equation all those who are NOW paying into the same system&#8230;.WOW, DUDE!!! That&#8217;s a bunch of Bucks&#8230;So why would any Doc NOT see patients? They want a piece of THAT pie, Right?? That smashes the argument of Waiting forever for service  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: reality rules</title>
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Yes, convince the country,it would be safe to juggle loaded guns.That would be a good warm up.</description>
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<p>Yes, convince the country,it would be safe to juggle loaded guns.That would be a good warm up.</p>
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