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		<title>By: Lallybroch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lallybroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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I agree that everyone should have health care -- but it shouldn't be free for some people, while others have to pay for it.  Everyone should be required to pay their fair share.  Just like car insurance -- we're all required to have it, and we all find ways to pay for it.  Health insurance shouldn't be any different.  Everyone should have it and everyone should pay for it.</description>
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<p>I agree that everyone should have health care &#8212; but it shouldn&#8217;t be free for some people, while others have to pay for it.  Everyone should be required to pay their fair share.  Just like car insurance &#8212; we&#8217;re all required to have it, and we all find ways to pay for it.  Health insurance shouldn&#8217;t be any different.  Everyone should have it and everyone should pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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That's the problem w/this sort of thinking -anything can be framed as a 'need', I guess it depends on the person you ask...'shelter' is a very basic need, but by looking @ the rents or cost of housing in any larger city -one can truly say it's 'out of reach' for many!</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s the problem w/this sort of thinking -anything can be framed as a &#8216;need&#8217;, I guess it depends on the person you ask&#8230;&#8217;shelter&#8217; is a very basic need, but by looking @ the rents or cost of housing in any larger city -one can truly say it&#8217;s &#8216;out of reach&#8217; for many!</p>
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		<title>By: good guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>good guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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actually the where-does-it-stop? argument was used back in the 30's when FDR proposed social security. It was dusted off in the 60's when johnson proposed medicare and civil rights. Now, of course, many have revived this same argument (that would be you). Actually, government is attempting to give americans a CHOICE. Are you saying you are against this freedom of choice? I know an example will not help you understand, but there MAY be someone who will see the comparative wisdom: say there was no post office, and it cost five dollars to mail a bill payment via fed ex or ups. (i don't know the actual cost of doing so today, but that's not important right now). Now say the president proposed starting a postal system like we have today. What would the right claim?  It's socialism! It will destroy private business! Why is obama wanting to destroy america? But in reality, the government run postal system is simply COMPETITION that gives the bill sender a lower cost of mailing something. But the government run post office can do this because there is (relatively) little advertisement costs and no million-dollar salaries to pay it's top executives. And guess what? fed ex and ups are doing fine, thank you. My point is, health care is being proposed along this same principle, and those against it are the same ones that would argue against a postal system. Rationally sane people can understand this; narrow minded folks cannot.</description>
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<p>actually the where-does-it-stop? argument was used back in the 30&#8217;s when FDR proposed social security. It was dusted off in the 60&#8217;s when johnson proposed medicare and civil rights. Now, of course, many have revived this same argument (that would be you). Actually, government is attempting to give americans a CHOICE. Are you saying you are against this freedom of choice? I know an example will not help you understand, but there MAY be someone who will see the comparative wisdom: say there was no post office, and it cost five dollars to mail a bill payment via fed ex or ups. (i don&#8217;t know the actual cost of doing so today, but that&#8217;s not important right now). Now say the president proposed starting a postal system like we have today. What would the right claim?  It&#8217;s socialism! It will destroy private business! Why is obama wanting to destroy america? But in reality, the government run postal system is simply COMPETITION that gives the bill sender a lower cost of mailing something. But the government run post office can do this because there is (relatively) little advertisement costs and no million-dollar salaries to pay it&#8217;s top executives. And guess what? fed ex and ups are doing fine, thank you. My point is, health care is being proposed along this same principle, and those against it are the same ones that would argue against a postal system. Rationally sane people can understand this; narrow minded folks cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey Pig the 2nd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey Pig the 2nd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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The government should provide me a car so I can go and get my food. But they will have to provide gas to go along with the car too. Then provide insurance for it also. Otherwise how can I possibly survive?</description>
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<p>The government should provide me a car so I can go and get my food. But they will have to provide gas to go along with the car too. Then provide insurance for it also. Otherwise how can I possibly survive?</p>
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		<title>By: perflexed</title>
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		<dc:creator>perflexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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History of man started about 4000BC, my how the bare essentials of life have changed.

The basic needs of life use to be food, water, clothing and shelter.
If you get caught in the elements without such you will soon die,

Now we have added, cable TV, internet access and cell phones to what even our poor seem entitled too,

Health care is next,

What has happened in education, a work ethic and responsibility.

In 4000BC if you were not smart enough, and didn't do it, your died.

Things have not changed for the better, we are weakening our own species and will be the demise of ourselves.</description>
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<p>History of man started about 4000BC, my how the bare essentials of life have changed.</p>
<p>The basic needs of life use to be food, water, clothing and shelter.<br />
If you get caught in the elements without such you will soon die,</p>
<p>Now we have added, cable TV, internet access and cell phones to what even our poor seem entitled too,</p>
<p>Health care is next,</p>
<p>What has happened in education, a work ethic and responsibility.</p>
<p>In 4000BC if you were not smart enough, and didn&#8217;t do it, your died.</p>
<p>Things have not changed for the better, we are weakening our own species and will be the demise of ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: BATMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BATMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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WHY would anyone accept a minimum wage job @ McDonalds if the government provides every American with EVERYTHING they need?</description>
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<p>WHY would anyone accept a minimum wage job @ McDonalds if the government provides every American with EVERYTHING they need?</p>
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		<title>By: ObamaAllWee-WeedUP</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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I take care of my own health care and no I do not need government protection .
Nor will I allow it.
Democrat liars be damned.</description>
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<p>I take care of my own health care and no I do not need government protection .<br />
Nor will I allow it.<br />
Democrat liars be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: carmenlafond</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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Health insurance is corrupt and needs to be changed.</description>
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<p>Health insurance is corrupt and needs to be changed.</p>
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		<title>By: No Wilson you lie</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Wilson you lie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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The 9th amendment will tell you that.</description>
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<p>The 9th amendment will tell you that.</p>
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		<title>By: robert c</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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That really scares you, doesn`t it?</description>
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<p>That really scares you, doesn`t it?</p>
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